Author Heather McGhee Talks About Racial Inequality and Giving

In the fifth episode of Season 3 of the Center for Effective Philanthropy’s Giving Done Right podcast, hosts Phil Buchanan and Grace Nicolette are joined by activist Heather McGhee, author of the bestselling The Sum of Us: What Racism Costs Everyone and How We Can Prosper Together. They unpack the concept of ‘drained pool’ politics, a metaphor for racism’s impact on public disinvestment, and talk about how racial inequality cuts across the issues that donors care about. McGhee also discusses the importance of showing solidarity despite differences and shares her reasons for optimism.

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